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Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:47 pm
by spread-tee
I need to get rid of some Chrome plating from parts of a motorbike I am restoring. I have had some quite pleasing results Nickel plating bolts, nuts, spacers etc for the purpose of corrosion proofing and to give a little shine, so I thought I would have a go at the kickstart and gear lever. The problem I am having is no matter how I prepare the surface, where the original chrome is intact the new plating will not stick, it just wipes off with a damp rag.
I have tried immersing in strong caustic soda for days, various types of sanding/wire brushing, even tried reverse plating all to no avail.
Any ideas??
Also need some bits turned up on a lathe, may have asked this one before.
Desp
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:59 pm
by AE-NMidlands
I understand that HCl will strip Chromium - my boss in the lab told me that our gents urinal flush bar was plain copper because he caught the cleaner applying lime-scale cleaning acid to it and saw the chrome disappearing! The rest of the building was spared that treatment.
https://www.evilution.co.uk/mod/removin ... h-acid.htm has other recipes too...
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:34 pm
by NoraBatty
Hydrochloric will do the job, but more importantly what is the underlying metal? because it may also eat that too if you arent careful.
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:47 pm
by Countrypaul
Hydochloric acid is also known as brick acid (just in case you didn't know).
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:21 am
by Paul_F
Would you not be able to use Electroless nickel plating?
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:00 pm
by Moxi
Hi Desp,
Have a read of this as its very informative
https://www.runsom.com/technology/ways- ... 20chromium.
Moxi
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:31 pm
by spread-tee
Thanks for the replies chaps, I am using diluted brick acid for the pickle before the plating , but even undiluted I don't think it is very strong, I also like the idea of using Caustic as the base material is steel so HCL could do some damage, but I will wizz out and get some spirit of salts tomorrow, I think that is about 35-40% HCL.
Paul I don't know anything about electroless Nickel plating, I will have a google up Thanks.
ATB
Desp
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:27 pm
by Countrypaul
Concentrated hydrochloric acid is about 38% (any higher is very prone to loss of strength) also known as muriatic acid and spirits of salts, brick acid is usually 18% iirc.
I thought I read somewhere that only 10% strength is needed to remove chrome plating though.
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:44 am
by spread-tee
Thanks,
I just dunked the kickstart lever in some Sika brick and patio cleaner that just states <10% HCl and there doesn't appear to be much activity yet, even on the bare steel, it's only been a few minutes though. I'm gonna try to find some spirit of salts drain unblocker and see what happens.
I'll probably get a visit from the bomb squad
Desp
Re: Any Chemists out there??
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:06 pm
by Stinsy
Make sure you only use it outside and don't inhale any fumes...