Some good ideas in here around moving some of the levies from the electricity bill to the gas bill.
https://www.nesta.org.uk/report/how-to- ... y-cheaper/
How to make electricity less expensive
How to make electricity less expensive
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Re: How to make electricity less expensive
I've been a very vocal supporter of a having a negative standing charge and higher unit rate. This would benefit the frugal and encourage those who consume the most to use less.
I also am very supportive of the democritisation of energy that comes from rooftop solar. Most UK houses have a roof capable of providing all the energy the house consumes. A grid connection is needed because the times of year when solar generates the most energy (summer) does not coincide with the times of year when the house consumes the most energy (winter). However the "net metering" of a typical home should be zero and bills shoud refelct this!
I also am very supportive of the democritisation of energy that comes from rooftop solar. Most UK houses have a roof capable of providing all the energy the house consumes. A grid connection is needed because the times of year when solar generates the most energy (summer) does not coincide with the times of year when the house consumes the most energy (winter). However the "net metering" of a typical home should be zero and bills shoud refelct this!
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Re: How to make electricity less expensive
Unfortunately, at the present time (and probably forever) we do not have the ability to store for half a year that amount of energy (the excess summer production). You are looking at something like 50 EV car batteries/house -- I don't mean AT the house, but somewhere.Stinsy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 12:24 pm A grid connection is needed because the times of year when solar generates the most energy (summer) does not coincide with the times of year when the house consumes the most energy (winter). However the "net metering" of a typical home should be zero and bills shoud refelct this!
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Re: How to make electricity less expensive
I don't think anybody here would advocate trying to do that. That is what wind turbines and the grid are for in my opinion, plus the interconnectors to places like Norway with lots of HEP, Maybe even to Iceland and Morocco one day.MikeNovack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 2:17 pmUnfortunately, at the present time (and probably forever) we do not have the ability to store for half a year that amount of energy (the excess summer production). You are looking at something like 50 EV car batteries/house -- I don't mean AT the house, but somewhere.Stinsy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 12:24 pm A grid connection is needed because the times of year when solar generates the most energy (summer) does not coincide with the times of year when the house consumes the most energy (winter). However the "net metering" of a typical home should be zero and bills shoud refelct this!
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Re: How to make electricity less expensive
You’ve missed the point!MikeNovack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 2:17 pmUnfortunately, at the present time (and probably forever) we do not have the ability to store for half a year that amount of energy (the excess summer production). You are looking at something like 50 EV car batteries/house -- I don't mean AT the house, but somewhere.Stinsy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 12:24 pm A grid connection is needed because the times of year when solar generates the most energy (summer) does not coincide with the times of year when the house consumes the most energy (winter). However the "net metering" of a typical home should be zero and bills shoud refelct this!
A house can use the grid as a battery!
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)