Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Ha! can you remember when we used to discuss payback in terms of years!
how the times change
I hope everyone has a brilliant bank holiday weekend and that the sun shines resolutely upon one and all's panels !
Moxi
how the times change
I hope everyone has a brilliant bank holiday weekend and that the sun shines resolutely upon one and all's panels !
Moxi
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
14 kW Mitsubishi Ecodan ASHP
11 x 460w Solar panels
Two 9.5kWh GivEnergy Batteries
EVs x 4 240 kWh Batteries
Ripple 5.8 kW PV 0.547 kW Whitelaw Brae
11 x 460w Solar panels
Two 9.5kWh GivEnergy Batteries
EVs x 4 240 kWh Batteries
Ripple 5.8 kW PV 0.547 kW Whitelaw Brae
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Yes a bit too embarrassing for me, 3 feckups in one month and quite large ones too. 
It does not take much peak rate to wipe out several days worth of profit.

It does not take much peak rate to wipe out several days worth of profit.

19.6kW PV > 117MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 34MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
90kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 530 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 34MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
90kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 530 m3
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
It wouldn’t for us mere mortals that make pennies a day but those crisp £20 daily notes take a bit more to wipe them out. But you’re doing big numbers so feck ups do cost quite a bit.
When I forget to adjust something the annoyance at fecking it up is completely out of kilter with the cost

14 kW Mitsubishi Ecodan ASHP
11 x 460w Solar panels
Two 9.5kWh GivEnergy Batteries
EVs x 4 240 kWh Batteries
Ripple 5.8 kW PV 0.547 kW Whitelaw Brae
11 x 460w Solar panels
Two 9.5kWh GivEnergy Batteries
EVs x 4 240 kWh Batteries
Ripple 5.8 kW PV 0.547 kW Whitelaw Brae
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
My first ever month of positive figures also featured some F-ups and 3 days where the Octopus-connected EV wasn’t home so limited to the 6-hr cheap slot.
12x 340W JA Solar panels (4.08kWp)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
3x 380W JA Solar panels (1.14kWp)
6x 2.4kWh Pylontech batteries (14.4kWh)
LuxPower inverter/charger
(Artist formally known as ******, well it should be obvious enough to those for whom such things are important.)
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Congratulations, nice to be on the right side of the line.
17.55kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
73kWh V2H EV
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
3G
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit
42kWh LFPO4 storage
73kWh V2H EV
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
3G
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Not in Nowty's league for profit but not a bad month for the not so sunny North compared to the sun-blessed south and no fancy import cost graphs either (yet!).
Missing £11.51 of export from the 14th April for some reason.

Missing £11.51 of export from the 14th April for some reason.

3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
Surely you have beat me at export and if your import is all at cheap rate your profitability is similar.
19.6kW PV > 117MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 34MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
90kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 530 m3
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 34MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
90kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 530 m3
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
£158.89 estimated but not confirmed.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
Re: Economics of charging at 7p and exporting at 15p
I’m looking to upgrade our batteries to take advantage of the import export rates currently available to us IOG users.
I am having our heat pumps/ heating system, hopefully made more efficient, and electrician is looking at adding to our current storage which is attached to our panels on a hybrid GivEnergy system.
He has suggested maybe having a separate system if it can get DNO approval and I’m wondering if this might be better as it could potentially allow me to export whilst also keeping the house warm during the winter. He is thinking about a Fox ess ac coupled inverter and batteries which can be added on to as he thinks this might work out better value for adding storage.
Currently when I export I turn all the heating off.
The plumber has removed the buffer tank and has replaced the 2 heat pumps with a single larger heat pump and he is opening the UFH to one thermostat rather than 6 individual ones.
With our current system I could never have all zones and radiators on, at the same time, as the radiator flow temps were never high enough so some rads never came on and I had turned the temperatures down on the rads as well.
Hopefully this will all work better in the winter
I am having our heat pumps/ heating system, hopefully made more efficient, and electrician is looking at adding to our current storage which is attached to our panels on a hybrid GivEnergy system.
He has suggested maybe having a separate system if it can get DNO approval and I’m wondering if this might be better as it could potentially allow me to export whilst also keeping the house warm during the winter. He is thinking about a Fox ess ac coupled inverter and batteries which can be added on to as he thinks this might work out better value for adding storage.
Currently when I export I turn all the heating off.
The plumber has removed the buffer tank and has replaced the 2 heat pumps with a single larger heat pump and he is opening the UFH to one thermostat rather than 6 individual ones.
With our current system I could never have all zones and radiators on, at the same time, as the radiator flow temps were never high enough so some rads never came on and I had turned the temperatures down on the rads as well.
Hopefully this will all work better in the winter

14 kW Mitsubishi Ecodan ASHP
11 x 460w Solar panels
Two 9.5kWh GivEnergy Batteries
EVs x 4 240 kWh Batteries
Ripple 5.8 kW PV 0.547 kW Whitelaw Brae
11 x 460w Solar panels
Two 9.5kWh GivEnergy Batteries
EVs x 4 240 kWh Batteries
Ripple 5.8 kW PV 0.547 kW Whitelaw Brae