Intelligent Octopus Go

[Stinsy]

Do you think the days are coming where they can tell when you are charging the car and apply the car tariff, tell when the heat pump is running and apply a separate tariff etc etc ?

Moxi

They can clearly tell when your car is charging. Octopus have a tariff that gives “unlimited” (not really unlimited) EV charging and bills the rest of your usage at flat rate.

The days of “gaming” as many cheap slots as you like are coming to an end…

[Moxi]

I would think that they can also identify the heat pump and your battery consumption if you are signed up to their smart systems as they communicate directly it would therefore be possible to apportion power tariffs relative to that consumption wouldn't it ?

I suppose if they were going that route then the smart tech tariffs would have to be very good to get people to sign up ?

I'm just getting used to Octopus vanilla myself so I watch these developments from the side lines with interest.

Moxi

[Countrypaul]

How wiil/does using a household battery, or pv and inverter to supply some of the power for the EV or HP impact the use of the smart tariffs for those devices?

[Moxi]

How wiil/does using a household battery, or pv and inverter to supply some of the power for the EV or HP impact the use of the smart tariffs for those devices?

If part of the supply is from the batteries that will be on the house side of the meter. Lets assume for example they would know from the interface with the tech that the car is charging at 7kW and the heat pump is consuming 0.75kW, the house is pulling 4.75kW from the grid so the balance must be from battery or insolation but it doesn't provide discrimination against house base load so do they give you 3kW at the car charging Tariff and 0.75kW at the cosy tariff ? Maybe thats the bit that stops them rolling out multiple tariff applications ? Mind you if they have access to your battery they must have access to your inverter so maybe they can also identify the rate of insolation, not that most inverters report in sufficient detail for insolation and real time billing?

Interesting, you can see the direction it could go and the problems and benefits.

Moxi

[Stinsy]

The problem is the millions of people who have battery and HP systems tha cannot/do not integrate with Octopus.

We use the EV to give cheap slots when the battery/HP need them. It really does feel like the beginning of the end...

[openspaceman]

The problem is the millions of people who have battery and HP systems tha cannot/do not integrate with Octopus.

We use the EV to give cheap slots when the battery/HP need them. It really does feel like the beginning of the end...

I worry too.

My main aim has always been to minimise my use of fossil fuel. 2 years ago I started on the journey of increasing my PV output and in October I changed from an AC coupled battery to a larger hybrid one and had already begun the lengthy process of changing my FIT deemed export to a negotiated one. Scottish Power were very slow but eventually in early May Octopus confirmed I was on Outgoing Octopus. Great I thought, perhaps I could set my exports off against my standing charges to get a net zero (my fit payments not included as they easily cover all my imported energy costs).

I doubled up on my FIT PV array as in my sig.

It all seemed hunky dory with Outgoing showing on my Octopus home page but no export readings available till 6 June when lo and behold the exports were showing but I had been downgraded to 4.1p SEG.

I just wonder if this is part of the plan, after all Octopus are paying out more than the summertime wholesale price.

Anyway a nice lady with an asian accent accepted my complaint and reinstated Octopus Outgoing.

Has anyone here with a Sunsynk 3.6 has experimented with their Agile tariff management, or better a simple time of use discharge? I feel summertime exports will only be welcome early morning and early evening which I should be able to accommodate with a discharge to 30% SOC from 0630 to 0800 then a similar discharge to 70% SOC from 1630 to 1930.

[ivan]

Are there any DIY options to get equipment to talk to Octopus's battey-charging tariffs? Or is the only option an 'approved' inverter such as Sunsynk?