February

NikoV6
Posts: 218
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:42 am

Re: February

#31

Post by NikoV6 »

Thought we would put another PowerWall in, got a quote, £10,900 fitted! :o

Only paid £8995 for the full install with gateway last year, bonkers!

Can a DC battery system play nicely with the PowerWall?
14Kw Mitsubishi Ecodan ASHP
22 x JA Solar 455W Mono Perc Half Cell Silvers
Solis 8.0Kw 5G Dual MPPT Inverter
13.5Kw Tesla Powerwall
Zappi 2 Charger
iBoost
User avatar
Fintray
Posts: 1827
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: February

#32

Post by Fintray »

NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:38 am Thought we would put another PowerWall in, got a quote, £10,900 fitted! :o

Only paid £8995 for the full install with gateway last year, bonkers!

Can a DC battery system play nicely with the PowerWall?
I have been looking at the same, and a DIY battery system could be had for much cheaper and with greater capacity.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
NikoV6
Posts: 218
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:42 am

Re: February

#33

Post by NikoV6 »

Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:49 am
NikoV6 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:38 am Thought we would put another PowerWall in, got a quote, £10,900 fitted! :o

Only paid £8995 for the full install with gateway last year, bonkers!

Can a DC battery system play nicely with the PowerWall?
I have been looking at the same, and a DIY battery system could be had for much cheaper and with greater capacity.
Interesting! I would only need as storage, the PowerWall can do all the tricky house isolating thing if needed!

Don't want to hijack this thread, do you know if this is discussed in another thread?
14Kw Mitsubishi Ecodan ASHP
22 x JA Solar 455W Mono Perc Half Cell Silvers
Solis 8.0Kw 5G Dual MPPT Inverter
13.5Kw Tesla Powerwall
Zappi 2 Charger
iBoost
User avatar
Fintray
Posts: 1827
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: February

#34

Post by Fintray »

I don't think this particular set up is being discussed on the forum.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
User avatar
Joeboy
Posts: 9125
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 4:22 pm
Location: Inverurie

Re: February

#35

Post by Joeboy »

Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:29 am I don't think this particular set up is being discussed on the forum.
Looks like a good proto thread Iain? Would be great to see it run.
15kW PV SE, VI, HM, EN
42kWh LFPO4 storage
73kWh V2H EV
7kW ASHP
200ltr HWT.
3G
Deep insulation, air leak ct'd home
WBSx2
Low energy bulbs
Veg patches & fruit
User avatar
nowty
Posts: 6408
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 2:36 pm
Location: South Coast

Re: February

#36

Post by nowty »

The dumber the battery inverter is, the easier it is to add some DIY battery storage. I fear a Powerwall my be too clever for that and difficult to get to a suitable DC tap off point.
18.7kW PV > 111MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 34MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
90kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 530 m3
User avatar
Fintray
Posts: 1827
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: February

#37

Post by Fintray »

nowty wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:08 pm The dumber the battery inverter is, the easier it is to add some DIY battery storage. I fear a Powerwall my be too clever for that and difficult to get to a suitable DC tap off point.
The DC voltage of the Powerwall would also be too high for safely linking a suitable DIY battery.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
User avatar
nowty
Posts: 6408
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 2:36 pm
Location: South Coast

Re: February

#38

Post by nowty »

Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:15 pm
nowty wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:08 pm The dumber the battery inverter is, the easier it is to add some DIY battery storage. I fear a Powerwall my be too clever for that and difficult to get to a suitable DC tap off point.
The DC voltage of the Powerwall would also be too high for safely linking a suitable DIY battery.
Spec says "Internal Battery DC Voltage 50V"
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/fil ... _en_GB.pdf
18.7kW PV > 111MWh generated
Ripple 6.6kW Wind + 4.5kW PV > 34MWh generated
7 Other RE Coop's
105kWh EV storage
90kWh Home battery storage
40kWh Thermal storage
GSHP + A2A HP's
Rain water use > 530 m3
User avatar
Fintray
Posts: 1827
Joined: Mon May 31, 2021 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: February

#39

Post by Fintray »

nowty wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:23 pm
Fintray wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:15 pm
nowty wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:08 pm The dumber the battery inverter is, the easier it is to add some DIY battery storage. I fear a Powerwall my be too clever for that and difficult to get to a suitable DC tap off point.
The DC voltage of the Powerwall would also be too high for safely linking a suitable DIY battery.
Spec says "Internal Battery DC Voltage 50V"
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/fil ... _en_GB.pdf
Duh, I looked up the original Powerwall and that states 350-450v but that will be the dc voltage incoming!

Still wouldn't want to try linking into the Powerwall whilst still under warranty though.
3.87kWp PV
10.24kWp PV SolarEdge system
Tesla Powerwall 2
MK2 PV router DHW diverter
Morso 5kW WBS
Vaillant AroTherm 10kW ASHP
Nissan Leaf
Moxi
Posts: 2666
Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:46 pm

Re: February

#40

Post by Moxi »

Could you build a DIY battery to your own voltage spec and then use it to trickle feed the background load via a cheap and cheerful hybrid grid tie inverter and leave the heavy lifting to the power wall ? Effectively you are keeping the systems separate but have the advantage of extra storage

Moxi
Post Reply